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Ziryab

When a player times out and manages to get a game or games restored, a message to his or her opponent concerning the reason for the restoration seems obligatory.

artfizz
Ziryab wrote: When a player times out and manages to get a game or games restored, a message to his or her opponent concerning the reason for the restoration seems obligatory.

That's a reasonable expectation.

jamessaul

Of course, but why or how would you get the games restored? I only ask because a while back I was ill and so timed out, of course I apologised to the other players but I'd never think of having them restored.

artfizz
jamessaul wrote:

Of course, but why or how would you get the games restored? I only ask because a while back I was ill and so timed out, of course I apologised to the other players but I'd never think of having them restored.


I've had a turn-based game lock up on me. It was my move, the clock was ticking, but all my pieces were frozen.

The problem was resolved before I timed out, but I would have felt slightly aggrieved to lose the game under those circumstances.

Ziryab
jamessaul wrote:

Of course, but why or how would you get the games restored? I only ask because a while back I was ill and so timed out, of course I apologised to the other players but I'd never think of having them restored.


I've seen a few cases where players time out when they think they are on vacation. Whether they failed to correctly set their vacation time or something went wrong with the site itself, I cannot say.

I do know that I lost a restored game (my opponent asked for the restoration) on time when I was on vacation, but that game was failing to appear among my active games, and now fails to appear in my completed games. It does not reflect a general problem with the site's implementation of vacation.

jamessaul

I think I see now, although I would have thought that as you say unless something happened with the site, like the severs going down or as artfizz said a game locks up, something like that then really its the player who must make sure they are 'on vacation'. Also as ziryab says a restored game can just confuse things and cause the other player to lose. I'd agree with paul as well with the whole multiple games timing out within a very short time frame.

Ahh well, I'm not sure why but looking back over what I put kinda sound argumentative, its not meant to be I just don't use vacation so I'm not too sure exactly how confusing it is.

Ziryab

When a game has been restored three times, how many times should it affect one's rating? Zero would be nice. In the game that provoked this thread, I've already lost the rating points, yet the game goes on.

Ziryab

A staff member has made it right with respect to the game in question, which brings us back to my request:

When a game is restored at the request of one player, the other should receive notification.

Lievin

I think that the proper thing to do would be to ask the other player for permission to restore the game.

"Draws" have to be agreed if not forced... "Restorations" should also be agreed -unless the time out is due to technical problems of the site (then it could be called a "forced restoration"!? hehe).

This site has an enjoyable and informal feeling, which is nice, but I also feel that some rules (vacation, etc...) may be a bit too flexible. I have not had important problems, though.

rooperi
Schachgeek wrote:

I imagine there are only a few situations where a timed out game might be restored:

1. death of the player

I almost hope nobody explains this to me. I could mull over this for the whole weekend....

Lievin
rooperi wrote:
Schachgeek wrote:

I imagine there are only a few situations where a timed out game might be restored:

1. death of the player

I almost hope nobody explains this to me. I could mull over this for the whole weekend....


Well, yes... Who knows if Steinitz is playing at chess.com... Do we know the limits of the internet? :)

artfizz
Schachgeek wrote:

I imagine there are only a few situations where a timed out game might be restored:

1. death of the player

rooperi wrote: I almost hope nobody explains this to me. I could mull over this for the whole weekend....


As requested, not an explanation but, did you know ...

in the ancient Greek olympic games, your opponent could end up dead in the wrestling - and still win the match on adjudication.