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-specter-

Here is a request that I submitted to chess.com and the response by the staff.

I hope that this encourages the staff to make this available to all groups.  It may take more work than some of realize and I am sorry for the burden it may cause.  This potentially may be a great feature to include?  Rated or Unrated games?  This topic may be something to consider and certainly some finer details must be worked out?

Please do give this some thought and certainly DEEPEST BLUE could be your trial run against a GM.

Thank you for all your hard work and truly hope this may become available to all groups in the near future.

Rod

[#155772]: Vote Chess against a GM‏
From: OfflineChess.com Support ([email protected])
Sent: July 9, 2010 2:30:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Hello specter. Unfortunately we do not currently have capabilities for this yet. However, I will be sure to pass along this suggestion. Also, I would recommend that you post about this in the suggestions forum at

- Matt



-specter- Posted on: 07 Jul 2010 06:46 PM
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Good day
I have a group that would like to have a Vote Match against a GM. If this is possible would you please help set this up? 3 days per move, either colour in a standard chess match. Please let me know your thoughts on this?
Thank you and of course we love this website, great work by the staff.
Rod
The group is called DEEPEST BLUE



aquiredtaste

I like this idea, but I'm unclear about what can be gained from entering into a vote chess game against a GM?  In the one vote chess game I am in now, the strongest players recommend the moves, give a brief, "why?" and everyone votes for that move.  Unless there is an extensive Post-Mortem examination by the GM of your group's play, lower level players just miss out I'm afraid.

What is the incentive for a GM to play such a game?

There are many GM's on this site, some of whom probably wouldn't mind doing a Vote Chess match if approached by a super-admin.  I don't know if you can now set up a vote chess match with one player vs an entire team (it doesn't look that way).  I thought Chess.com was moving that direction.  A gentle nudge from you in the form of having a GM lined up might help move Erik along.

henri5

Having a bunch of amateurs  playing vote chess against a grandmaster is like having a committee design an elephant or write a poem. It assumes that more players think better than one, but in fact it is just the contrary, not to mention that the vote procedure assures the lowest common denominator.

There are 2 possible outcomes:1) The grandmaster wins in 15 moves; 2) the amateurs are using computers and the Grandmaster loses.

hic2482w

@aquiredtaste

I completely agree. In the may vote chess games I am playing, 1 or 2 players establish themselves as the authority, and the lower-rated players-like me!- miss out.

@henri5.

Honestly. Do you really think that those arethe only possible outcomes?

Be realistic. Chess.com members are not low enough to use computers (well most of us at least), and with a lot of people, I thik we have a decent change of a draw.

aquiredtaste

Actually, yeah, there are bunches of people that use computers.  Several guys in my vote chess match constantly say, book says....

henri5
hic2482w wrote:

@aquiredtaste

I completely agree. In the may vote chess games I am playing, 1 or 2 players establish themselves as the authority, and the lower-rated players-like me!- miss out.

@henri5.

Honestly. Do you really think that those arethe only possible outcomes?

Be realistic. Chess.com members are not low enough to use computers (well most of us at least), and with a lot of people, I thik we have a decent change of a draw.


Computers are allowed in  long online games (not live).

MM78

Firstly there have been  vote chess games on this site against GM's

Nigel Davies, Julio Becerra which i was a member of and there was also one aginst a WGM.  Both games were drawn, agaisnt Davies we were pretty well lost imo, certainly I was for voting to resign but  a small group continued and got a draw. With proper leadership and group agreement on voting it can work.

 

Henri, computers, if you mean engines, are NOT allowed in correspondence games on this site, they are not allowed in any form of chess on this site.