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DeepGreene

For thematic tournaments that start several moves into a book opening, would it be a lot of trouble to include the 'pre-played' moves in the PGN download?  As it stands, I have to manually edit the PGN text, or else the my database can't identify the opening.

 

Cheers!
Golwar

*nods*

I totally agree, PGNs shouldn't start in the middle of nowhere :) 


erik
they don't start in the middle of nowhere - they start with the FEN presented in the header. :) we had this debate internally. i can't remember why we came out doing it this way. ask jay :)
God2
...super attack is the best
DeepGreene
erik wrote: they don't start in the middle of nowhere - they start with the FEN presented in the header. :) we had this debate internally. i can't remember why we came out doing it this way. ask jay :)

The FEN is better than nothing..  I've experienced a similar issue on another site, and in that case, the PGNs are actually corrupt; they can't even be pasted into a chess app.  Still, the opening codes are important to me, so I've got to edit them to get the games properly categorized. 

 

From an implementation stand-point, I guess whatever you do for thematic tournaments would also apply to the dozens and dozens of non-standard starting positions under new game setup options, so programming in the preliminary moves based on the chosen opening might be a lot of work...  Just guessing..


orejano
I totally Agree with the author.
broze

Entirely agree, I would participate in many more tournaments if I could put the pgns in a database.

 


erik
broze wrote:

Entirely agree, I would participate in many more tournaments if I could put the pgns in a database.


 so how would you indicate that it was a thematic game and started from a particular opening position?


DeepGreene
erik wrote:

so how would you indicate that it was a thematic game and started from a particular opening position?


I wouldn't, apart from the title in the "Event" field of the PGN.  If it was an Alekhine's event, I'd just include "1. e4 Nf6" in the move notation, just as if the moves had actually been played. 


broze
Or maybe even an option to include it?. . . These are just ideas, not sure how practical they would actually be.
God2
i dont agree...u have to improve your skill when your oppennent know u opening.
broze

Hey my database has now started accepting my English Tournament games with pre-move c4, is this something chess.com have implemented, if so thankyou v. much!!

 


DeepGreene
I totally missed this enhancement, till just now...  THANKS, guys!!  Laughing
erik
yep. we fixed this a while back. sorry - forgot to tell you :)